Watch the moment a murderer appears on a talk show next to the mother of the woman he killed.
Rose Callaly's worst fears came true when her daughter, Rachel, was murdered at her family home in Naul, County Dublin 2004.
She appeared on the Late Late Show with Rachel's husband, Joe O'Reilly, in a bid to learn more about what happened to their loved one - little did she know, her son-in-law was behind the whole thing.
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Joe's appearance on the talk show was strange, to say the least.
The man, who'd just lost his wife, seemed unsettlingly calm and cool. Rachel's brother Paul told The Making of a Detective podcast: "My mother’s stomach was doing somersaults before going out and Joe was eating plates of sandwiches to beat the band and was totally relaxed.
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“It was bizarre for going on live TV and not having a nerve in your body. For him, it was a performance, it was all just going to be part of it."
Joe tries to paint the picture of being the perfect husband, explaining how he proposed to Rachel under the Eiffel Tower.
Unlike Joe, Rachel's mother is clearly devastated when asked further about Rachel, saying: "She was an absolutely brilliant daughter, a brilliant person. And it's just inconceivable that, you know, her life has ended and the way it did. She didn't deserve that."
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But Joe's response is unusually collected, and instead makes a strange point about the amount of blood that must've been on the killer: "So therefore, it would have been a lot of blood on this person, whether it was in their hair and on their face and the hands on the cloud somewhere. If they got into a car, it would have to be bloodstains in the car somewhere."
Doesn't exactly scream innocence, does it?
The interview left many questioning Joe's role in Rachel's murder, and he was eventually found guilty of bludgeoning Rachel to death.
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Her brother said afterwards: "He didn’t decide to kill Rachel the day before, the month before. He thought about this for a long time and I’m sure he thought about the afterwards and the before and the middle. So in his head, this was all part of the way it should play out and I think he enjoyed it, I think he enjoyed shocking people.
“He liked that feeling, he enjoyed people’s reactions. In my head it’s not human, not normal — but that’s the way he is, I honestly believe he’s a psychopath."
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