Topics: Joaquin Phoenix, Lady Gaga, Film and TV, US News, Rotten Tomatoes
A lip reader has lifted the lid on what Joaquin Phoenix apparently said to Lady Gaga after watching the new Joker movie.
Joker: Folie à Deux, a sequel to the 2019 Joker, released earlier this month in the US to some pretty poor reviews.
The new DC movie currently sits at a lowly 33 percent Rotten Tomatoes score, while some fans have even walked out a cinemas an hour in after being unimpressed by the movie.
Phoenix and Lady Gaga star in the new Joker film, and they were seen in close conversation after watching it at a film festival.
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Clips of the acting pair speaking have appeared on social media, with many trying to work out what the pair said to each other.
Of course, lip reading is always an interpretation, so we can't be sure what Phoenix and Gaga are saying.
On top of that, Phoenix is facing away from the camera a lot of the time, though what a lip reader has 'revealed' does tie in with the reviews for the movie.
"Someone should use that AI lip reader that I keep seeing on here to figure out what they were saying," someone suggested on Twitter.
Thanks to the AI tool of 'Read Their Lips', Phoenix seemingly dubbed the film as 'horrible', while Gaga insisted it isn't.
— j (@gagagraygaga) October 7, 2024
Phoenix went on to discuss how the ending 'could have been different', as Gaga insisted she 'loved it'.
The negative reviews that have come through for the Joker sequel as well director Todd Phillips' admission that he is done with the franchise.
When asked about the possibility of a stand-alone movie about Gaga’s Harley Quinn character introduced in Joker 2, Phillips told The Hollywood Reporter: "It’s not really where this movie is headed for me. I feel like my time in the DC Universe was these two films.”
Speaking of getting the singer on board in the first place, the director added: "I think we sent her half the script, and she texted me pretty quickly that she was really into it, that she loved it and everything you want to hear.
“I went out to her house, and we met about what it was going to be, the rest of it, because we hadn’t written it yet.
“[Co-writer] Scott Silver and I are notoriously slow writers.”
On the film, one Rotten Tomatoes user said: "This film was so bad that I joined Rotten Tomatoes for the first time ever just to leave it a review."
Another piled on: "As Jeremy Jahns would like to say... not gonna remember this one in T-minus one day."
A final resolved: "Its story was slow and boring and never really went anywhere with the story. Way too much Lady Gaga singing. Didnt like the ending either."
However, not everyone thought so poorly of the film.
One five star review read: "It's probably not for everybody. Those who have depth and have the ability to lose themselves in the story will love it. The acting was phenomenal."
Another added: "Tour de force from Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga! Beautiful movie, heartbreaking, excellent."
And someone else said: "The best Joker out of all the Jokers. Very cerebral movie with lots of references to the shadow self, the part of the human psyche which the ego does not see."
Joker: Folie à Deux is in cinemas across the world now.
